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Hornby LMS Rebuilt Patriot

Paul Johnson.
Hornby Rebuilt Patriot no  R2536 in BR lined green early crest. 

Had a good look at this one against photographs and drawings and it seems to be on the money.  The chimney is a little slim or ‘underweight’; that’s a job for when I find a whitemetal or brass cast replacement. Paint and printing of lining, numbers, totem  etc. is all to Hornby’s usual fine standard. The tender is the standard Stanier type with Hornby’s spurious rendition of a valance below the footplate where there isn’t one, and the springs and axleboxes thereby slightly compressed vertically to fit in the undersize space on the frames. But altogether one nice looking model which captures the class appearance very well.

The detail parts are pretty comprehensive, the model needs careful handling if the  finer parts are not to be damaged.  The fine plastic sandpipe detail doesn’t last long on a running loco; 2 out of 4 ‘disappeared ‘ in the first six months of operation. The detail around the cab is well done, doors, roof ventilator, wind deflectors, injectors and fall plate much enhance the looks in this area. The motion parts are if anything a little too fine, the connecting rod especially too skinny in cross section. The model has to be very carefully checked on receipt and the connecting rods adjusted to avoid any chance of catching on a leading crankpin. (The Hornby motor has ample power to destroy this component if it catches while the loco is running at any speed.) Items like brake rodding, front steps and cylinder drains provided for the user to add. The last two need to be checked by the user when fitting to make sure they don’t foul on the tightest curves on the layout.

Good runner as received, picks up on all coupled wheels and all tender wheels as supplied. Runs more than fast enough for express speeds and has all the motor power it needs but slipped a lot on a full length load. Needed some modification internally to add lead ballast for better traction. Good at smooth slow speed crawling too, and quiet through the speed range. With running time it improved a little as usual, but it was definitely ‘ready to run’ as received; and I would guess that for most layouts the haulage would be adequate, it was good for 8 coaches or 30 wagons without slipping.

It came with adequate grease on the major moving parts, and will get more grease as required.


Getting the body off the first time was a trial: just one slot head screw above the front bogie wheels to undo, but the chassis didn’t budge, the wiring around the motor had that part of the chassis wedged against the firebox sides. It took quite a lot of persuasion with ominous creakings from the body to get the chassis out. Once free it was modified for lead ballast, the original wiring came out to make space above the coupled wheels. My usual choice of a  Lenz silver decoder was hardwired in, located in the smoke box, this delivers the expected excellent performance with Hornby’s black can motor. Also while the chassis was out added springing to the bogie pivot pin. A new tender link made to couple on at scale distance and eliminate the very dated power coupling. Soldered wires across to the tender pick ups.


Replacing the body was even more troublesome! I got one of the expansion links outside the footplate mounted motion bracket and bent the valve gear slightly. So, had to straighten the gear and fix the problem. What I have done on the body is file away the rear of the motion brackets to create more space to avoid this happening again.


Finding an NEM coupler pocket on the tender was pleasing. At last Hornby have got around to updating this tender in that respect.

Overall ranking
9.  Docking it a point for being rather too light for good traction, and the tightness of the motion brackets over the expansion links making body replacement problematic.

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